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		<title>By: Innervational_Resident</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a copy of my letter to Mayor and council. Please see my note re Citygate (Patsy&#039;s group)

Dear Worship and Council,
 
As an owner in Spectrum, I have followed with great interest the public consultation process surrounding the City of Vancouver&#039;s North East False Creek, Higher Level review.
 
What has struck me most, is that this exercise of a &quot;High Level Review&quot; has never been clearly defined or understood (by staff or the public) and therefore it has fallen sadly of track.
 
My understanding (after attending the recent open houses) is that this HLR report is a guide that sets broad goals and guidelines for future rezonings and ODP modifications. However, in past open houses last spring, staff alerted me that this HLR would replace the ODP and set a new vision, density targets and would allow landowners to go to rezonings immediately. What is the actual exercise of the HLR? 
 
In any case, the process has been dragging on for well over a year and still I do not see a vision being defined for the area by City staff.  In my mind the HLR should have been a return to first principles as was the case with the policy broadsheets process which brought us the 1990 ODP.  That was a phenomenal visioning exercise that set the baseline for the ODP and the subsequent rezonings we have seen to date.  It is so sad that we instead have a report that avoids FSR, gets into density (but not specifically into benefits or where they are located) and lacks any kind of real guiding principles other than &quot;live, work, play&quot;.  
 
I cannot find the Richard Henriquez plan online, but saw it (in grainy quality) when watching the council video last week. It was the first time I saw a plan that looked at the area and said &quot;what&#039;s best for residents today and for residents moving forward&quot;.  He didn&#039;t seem to be suggesting a smaller park and I was eager to hear more, but with only 5 minutes for him to speak I did not get a full account of his plan.  I was lead to believe that it would connect Georgia street down to the water (great for us Spectrum residents!), create a park that focuses and increases public space on the waterfront among other items.  This sounds excellent!
 
While the HLR report is a lost opportunity, I do understand that City staff have a tough job to do. There are several landowners, with various goals, aspirations and timing requirements. The neighbourhood contains residents (citygate) whom feel they are owed a park and have become irrational as anger blinds them to any possibilities that do not involve the punishment of &quot;sins&quot; for the developers, Concord Pacific. This issues has become personal for them and is counterproductive to positive, world-class city building. 
 
I ask that as you prepare to debate this report today you reflect on the opportunity at hand. Yes its tough, yes there are very hard issues, but this is YOUR opportunity as councillors to make a mark on a definitive piece of land that could tie east and west together and create a new &quot;Vancouver model&quot; for the next 20 years.  We did it before in 1990 with the first ODP, now please lets focus on what the future holds for this area, not what grievances are held, what obligations must be wrung out of developers and punishment levelled. I live in the area and want to start a family. As a new $500M roof is built next door, I hope other benefits (which are always delivered in the NEFC through private development activities) will follow as development continues and more bodies fill a derelict space.  
 
Consider what works. Lets hear more from the Heriquez group and lets lay off density at this stage and talk about land use, urban form and what a great park really looks like.  My request to you council is that you ask staff to work on this Henriquez plan, figure out the park and that a planning exercise to create a new ODP for the area be put in place, not more modifications.
 
Yours truly,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a copy of my letter to Mayor and council. Please see my note re Citygate (Patsy&#8217;s group)</p>
<p>Dear Worship and Council,</p>
<p>As an owner in Spectrum, I have followed with great interest the public consultation process surrounding the City of Vancouver&#8217;s North East False Creek, Higher Level review.</p>
<p>What has struck me most, is that this exercise of a &#8220;High Level Review&#8221; has never been clearly defined or understood (by staff or the public) and therefore it has fallen sadly of track.</p>
<p>My understanding (after attending the recent open houses) is that this HLR report is a guide that sets broad goals and guidelines for future rezonings and ODP modifications. However, in past open houses last spring, staff alerted me that this HLR would replace the ODP and set a new vision, density targets and would allow landowners to go to rezonings immediately. What is the actual exercise of the HLR? </p>
<p>In any case, the process has been dragging on for well over a year and still I do not see a vision being defined for the area by City staff.  In my mind the HLR should have been a return to first principles as was the case with the policy broadsheets process which brought us the 1990 ODP.  That was a phenomenal visioning exercise that set the baseline for the ODP and the subsequent rezonings we have seen to date.  It is so sad that we instead have a report that avoids FSR, gets into density (but not specifically into benefits or where they are located) and lacks any kind of real guiding principles other than &#8220;live, work, play&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I cannot find the Richard Henriquez plan online, but saw it (in grainy quality) when watching the council video last week. It was the first time I saw a plan that looked at the area and said &#8220;what&#8217;s best for residents today and for residents moving forward&#8221;.  He didn&#8217;t seem to be suggesting a smaller park and I was eager to hear more, but with only 5 minutes for him to speak I did not get a full account of his plan.  I was lead to believe that it would connect Georgia street down to the water (great for us Spectrum residents!), create a park that focuses and increases public space on the waterfront among other items.  This sounds excellent!</p>
<p>While the HLR report is a lost opportunity, I do understand that City staff have a tough job to do. There are several landowners, with various goals, aspirations and timing requirements. The neighbourhood contains residents (citygate) whom feel they are owed a park and have become irrational as anger blinds them to any possibilities that do not involve the punishment of &#8220;sins&#8221; for the developers, Concord Pacific. This issues has become personal for them and is counterproductive to positive, world-class city building. </p>
<p>I ask that as you prepare to debate this report today you reflect on the opportunity at hand. Yes its tough, yes there are very hard issues, but this is YOUR opportunity as councillors to make a mark on a definitive piece of land that could tie east and west together and create a new &#8220;Vancouver model&#8221; for the next 20 years.  We did it before in 1990 with the first ODP, now please lets focus on what the future holds for this area, not what grievances are held, what obligations must be wrung out of developers and punishment levelled. I live in the area and want to start a family. As a new $500M roof is built next door, I hope other benefits (which are always delivered in the NEFC through private development activities) will follow as development continues and more bodies fill a derelict space.  </p>
<p>Consider what works. Lets hear more from the Heriquez group and lets lay off density at this stage and talk about land use, urban form and what a great park really looks like.  My request to you council is that you ask staff to work on this Henriquez plan, figure out the park and that a planning exercise to create a new ODP for the area be put in place, not more modifications.</p>
<p>Yours truly,</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little clarity please.

Loaded phrases like &quot;selling out&quot; do not apply to the waterfront park.  There is no way under the sun (or, as it were, the rain) that condo towers will be built right on the waterfront and block access for the public.  Councilors of any stripe will put their futures in serious jeopardy if they voted for such a giveaway.  Waterfront as a public amenity is sacrosanct in downtown.

The issue is utilizing what little open space is left on the downtown peninsula (already blessed by the 1,000 acre Stanley Park and several hundred additional acres of additional waterfront park and public open space) for more housing + a linear waterfront park of limited size, or less housing + a larger park.

And I&#039;ve been to meetings where both anti + pro development crowds use identical and very, very typical tactics to disrupt meetings and overwhelm a speaker&#039;s list.  Rules can be equally bent by opposing interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little clarity please.</p>
<p>Loaded phrases like &#8220;selling out&#8221; do not apply to the waterfront park.  There is no way under the sun (or, as it were, the rain) that condo towers will be built right on the waterfront and block access for the public.  Councilors of any stripe will put their futures in serious jeopardy if they voted for such a giveaway.  Waterfront as a public amenity is sacrosanct in downtown.</p>
<p>The issue is utilizing what little open space is left on the downtown peninsula (already blessed by the 1,000 acre Stanley Park and several hundred additional acres of additional waterfront park and public open space) for more housing + a linear waterfront park of limited size, or less housing + a larger park.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve been to meetings where both anti + pro development crowds use identical and very, very typical tactics to disrupt meetings and overwhelm a speaker&#8217;s list.  Rules can be equally bent by opposing interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Patsy McMillan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patsy McMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments from everyone especially Michael Geller who is  &quot;in the know&quot; regarding park to person ratios and payments - in - lieu for park space not provided.  Even if 2.75 acres per 1,000 residents is a target ratio it has still been used to calculate the cash - in - lieu to the city if this target is not met. Let&#039;s keep in mind that the target amount of park space for NEFC &#039;s  7,200 new residents is 19.8 acreas. Only 5 acres of that has been accomplished in hard surface, not green space.  A much needed youth area under the viaduct and an open plaza at the foot of Georgia St.  A net deficit of 14.8 acres.  The Creekside Park extension of 9.06 acres was provided for the original density that the City contracted with Concord Pacific. So it is part of the &quot;Old Deal&quot; not part of the  &quot;New Deal&quot; currently being discussed.
The Henriquez plan was privately commissioned by Concord Pacific so it is not in the public realm as yet.  This being said, I find it particularly damning that when a dozen Concord real estate agents and the VP Development for Aquilini showed up at the recent False Creek Residents Assoc. meeting to disrupt the meeting, they all had copies of the plan that &quot;they were not supposed to show to anyone&quot;.  The assistant sales manager for Concord even suggested that it would be an even better plan to build the condo towers along the water and have the park in behind, along Pacific, in order to allow new purchasers a better view.
Most knew nothing about the background but, I think, had been told to infiltrate the meeting in order to be disruptive and argumentative.  Fortunately we are able to see through this kind of futile tactic and has made us even more determined to not let this happen.  
Our new mayor and Vision council who most voters thought would never let this happen has indeed dropped the ball and is willing to sell out to the developers. Mayor Robertson&#039;s  comment in the Vancouver Sun on Thursday morning says it all when he is quoted as saying that  we don&#039;t need another large park in Vancouver because we have Stanley Park and Pacific Spirit Park.   The latter is not in Vancouver and the former was a gift to the city from 3 enterprising and grateful greenhorns who appreciated the need for green space in a booming urbanity. If not we would most likely have condo towers there as well.  This statement is very reminiscent of what Marie Antoinette said just before the onset of the French Revolution . &quot;Let them eat cake &quot;.  Elitist then and elitist now.
I also take some umbrance re: the Beasley letter and I quote from the Aquilini site: re employees
&quot;  With 30 years of civic service, Larry Beasley’s achievements in land use and planning have reshaped Vancouver’s city centre creating a model for city planner worldwide. &quot;  So as an employee of Aquilini, one of the four developers involved in this project, I would suggest that he is not arm&#039;s length from the profits of this development.
So far, nobody has made comment about our recent findings regarding the BC Assessed value of this contentious piece of property.  For the past 20 years the land east of Abbott St. to Quebec St., the eastern portion of the lot adjacent to GM Place and the area under the viaduct, totally, have been assessed for $192,000 paying city taxes last March 2009 of less than $4,400 .  Low, because this land is all designated as PARK LAND and should be kept as such.  This would be the opportune time for the land to be removed from re-zoning by whatever means is legally possible by either the city or the Prov. Gov&#039;t.  so that a landmark park could be developed on the last remaining waterfront property in Vancouver.  Precedent for this would Vancouver vs. CPR when the rail company wanted to build condos along the Arbutus line. The city took them to court and won.  
This would also save the BC taxpayers millions of dollars in soil remediation costs as we are the ones responsible for that endeavor.  
Don&#039;t be foolish enough to throw this away without a fight. Once gone, we will never get it back and we will all be the loser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments from everyone especially Michael Geller who is  &#8220;in the know&#8221; regarding park to person ratios and payments &#8211; in &#8211; lieu for park space not provided.  Even if 2.75 acres per 1,000 residents is a target ratio it has still been used to calculate the cash &#8211; in &#8211; lieu to the city if this target is not met. Let&#8217;s keep in mind that the target amount of park space for NEFC &#8216;s  7,200 new residents is 19.8 acreas. Only 5 acres of that has been accomplished in hard surface, not green space.  A much needed youth area under the viaduct and an open plaza at the foot of Georgia St.  A net deficit of 14.8 acres.  The Creekside Park extension of 9.06 acres was provided for the original density that the City contracted with Concord Pacific. So it is part of the &#8220;Old Deal&#8221; not part of the  &#8220;New Deal&#8221; currently being discussed.<br />
The Henriquez plan was privately commissioned by Concord Pacific so it is not in the public realm as yet.  This being said, I find it particularly damning that when a dozen Concord real estate agents and the VP Development for Aquilini showed up at the recent False Creek Residents Assoc. meeting to disrupt the meeting, they all had copies of the plan that &#8220;they were not supposed to show to anyone&#8221;.  The assistant sales manager for Concord even suggested that it would be an even better plan to build the condo towers along the water and have the park in behind, along Pacific, in order to allow new purchasers a better view.<br />
Most knew nothing about the background but, I think, had been told to infiltrate the meeting in order to be disruptive and argumentative.  Fortunately we are able to see through this kind of futile tactic and has made us even more determined to not let this happen.<br />
Our new mayor and Vision council who most voters thought would never let this happen has indeed dropped the ball and is willing to sell out to the developers. Mayor Robertson&#8217;s  comment in the Vancouver Sun on Thursday morning says it all when he is quoted as saying that  we don&#8217;t need another large park in Vancouver because we have Stanley Park and Pacific Spirit Park.   The latter is not in Vancouver and the former was a gift to the city from 3 enterprising and grateful greenhorns who appreciated the need for green space in a booming urbanity. If not we would most likely have condo towers there as well.  This statement is very reminiscent of what Marie Antoinette said just before the onset of the French Revolution . &#8220;Let them eat cake &#8220;.  Elitist then and elitist now.<br />
I also take some umbrance re: the Beasley letter and I quote from the Aquilini site: re employees<br />
&#8221;  With 30 years of civic service, Larry Beasley’s achievements in land use and planning have reshaped Vancouver’s city centre creating a model for city planner worldwide. &#8221;  So as an employee of Aquilini, one of the four developers involved in this project, I would suggest that he is not arm&#8217;s length from the profits of this development.<br />
So far, nobody has made comment about our recent findings regarding the BC Assessed value of this contentious piece of property.  For the past 20 years the land east of Abbott St. to Quebec St., the eastern portion of the lot adjacent to GM Place and the area under the viaduct, totally, have been assessed for $192,000 paying city taxes last March 2009 of less than $4,400 .  Low, because this land is all designated as PARK LAND and should be kept as such.  This would be the opportune time for the land to be removed from re-zoning by whatever means is legally possible by either the city or the Prov. Gov&#8217;t.  so that a landmark park could be developed on the last remaining waterfront property in Vancouver.  Precedent for this would Vancouver vs. CPR when the rail company wanted to build condos along the Arbutus line. The city took them to court and won.<br />
This would also save the BC taxpayers millions of dollars in soil remediation costs as we are the ones responsible for that endeavor.<br />
Don&#8217;t be foolish enough to throw this away without a fight. Once gone, we will never get it back and we will all be the loser.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there&#039;s an idea .... convert the BC Place stadium roof to an elevated public park park.

It&#039;s even bigger than the new convention centre green roof, which is off-limits to general public access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there&#8217;s an idea &#8230;. convert the BC Place stadium roof to an elevated public park park.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even bigger than the new convention centre green roof, which is off-limits to general public access.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the goal of 2.75/1000 can&#039;t be met then other public amenities can be provided instead, but they should be real amenities of use to local residents. I don&#039;t see how the stadium roof would qualify....unless they plan to allow the stadium to be used as an off-leash dog area during non-event times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the goal of 2.75/1000 can&#8217;t be met then other public amenities can be provided instead, but they should be real amenities of use to local residents. I don&#8217;t see how the stadium roof would qualify&#8230;.unless they plan to allow the stadium to be used as an off-leash dog area during non-event times!</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to note that Michael Geller says that Ken Dobell did a good job negotiating for the City on Coal Harbour amenities. What&#039;s different here is that Ken was negotiating for the developers.  Hence we get a stadium roof as a &quot;public amenity&quot; and a Council approved mandate for a ton of density without anything resembling policy teeth for staff to use to get anything for the neighbourhood.   As for Jim Green, he has been a developer &#039;wanna be&#039; for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to note that Michael Geller says that Ken Dobell did a good job negotiating for the City on Coal Harbour amenities. What&#8217;s different here is that Ken was negotiating for the developers.  Hence we get a stadium roof as a &#8220;public amenity&#8221; and a Council approved mandate for a ton of density without anything resembling policy teeth for staff to use to get anything for the neighbourhood.   As for Jim Green, he has been a developer &#8216;wanna be&#8217; for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Geller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Geller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too questioned where the 2.75 acres/1000 requirement came from.  Park Board staff will tell you it is not arbitrary.  It was determined based on the actual provision of park space in the city, divided by the population, excluding Stanley Park.  

In response to the above comments, I agree that the park space need not be grass.  It could include&#039; hard landscaping&#039;....Indeed, I argued that it should include the area of  shoreline walkways created by the developer...that was a battle!

I am surprised to read that Coal Harbour and SEFC did not achieve the 2.75/1000 requirement.  This is not my understanding at all, but I would welcome further evidence that the requirement was not met.  (Although I would accept that the new man made environmental island be counted...but not the water!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too questioned where the 2.75 acres/1000 requirement came from.  Park Board staff will tell you it is not arbitrary.  It was determined based on the actual provision of park space in the city, divided by the population, excluding Stanley Park.  </p>
<p>In response to the above comments, I agree that the park space need not be grass.  It could include&#8217; hard landscaping&#8217;&#8230;.Indeed, I argued that it should include the area of  shoreline walkways created by the developer&#8230;that was a battle!</p>
<p>I am surprised to read that Coal Harbour and SEFC did not achieve the 2.75/1000 requirement.  This is not my understanding at all, but I would welcome further evidence that the requirement was not met.  (Although I would accept that the new man made environmental island be counted&#8230;but not the water!)</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m less interested in a numbers game (2.75/1,000) than quality of space.  To me devoting 100% of the waterfront to the public realm in the form  of a linear park was a major achievment in other parts of Vancouver, and see no reason why NEFC should be any different.  Too many cities have yet to realize what a public asset waterfront really is and prefer to leave it privatized.  So what if they&#039;re 15-20% short of the 2.75/1,000 in NEFC?

Sean Bickerton mentionend that NYC has devoted a significant amount of land to park space.  Well, I really don&#039;t believe they&#039;ve achieved anything close to 2.75/1,000 in Manhattan.  Though Central Park could be called New York&#039;s &quot;Stanley Park&quot;, you&#039;d be hard pressed to find generous green space from mid-Manhattan south.  Moreover, the FDR freeway took over huge parts of the Manhattan waterfront, something Vancouver has purposely avoided to its great merit

However, green spaces like Washington Square (and many even smaller spaces) are absolutely delightful gems and add much vitality to a very dense city.

Sounds like some would prefer that the city wrestle developments from the evil developers and have the city form its own development company, perhaps put every little development detail out to public referenda, or do nothing more than build walls around the city and pop a glass bubble on top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m less interested in a numbers game (2.75/1,000) than quality of space.  To me devoting 100% of the waterfront to the public realm in the form  of a linear park was a major achievment in other parts of Vancouver, and see no reason why NEFC should be any different.  Too many cities have yet to realize what a public asset waterfront really is and prefer to leave it privatized.  So what if they&#8217;re 15-20% short of the 2.75/1,000 in NEFC?</p>
<p>Sean Bickerton mentionend that NYC has devoted a significant amount of land to park space.  Well, I really don&#8217;t believe they&#8217;ve achieved anything close to 2.75/1,000 in Manhattan.  Though Central Park could be called New York&#8217;s &#8220;Stanley Park&#8221;, you&#8217;d be hard pressed to find generous green space from mid-Manhattan south.  Moreover, the FDR freeway took over huge parts of the Manhattan waterfront, something Vancouver has purposely avoided to its great merit</p>
<p>However, green spaces like Washington Square (and many even smaller spaces) are absolutely delightful gems and add much vitality to a very dense city.</p>
<p>Sounds like some would prefer that the city wrestle developments from the evil developers and have the city form its own development company, perhaps put every little development detail out to public referenda, or do nothing more than build walls around the city and pop a glass bubble on top.</p>
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		<title>By: Glissando Remmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glissando Remmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought of the Day
&quot;I suspect that the majority on the City of Vancouver Council is connected as in an anachronistic series circuit. They cannot afford to let go, really. They are all holding hands, with Gregor closing the circle, his fingers, up...the power source.&quot; 

Also, I have a confession to make, I am afraid of circus clowns. I am particularly scared when they are riding their undersized bicycles, honking their horns and spraying water on the unsuspecting spectators from their flower shaped water throwers. And then, there are the shoes. Big, “gianormous” rainbow coloured, gummy soled, dog shit left on grass squishing machines. 
But, enough about Vancouver Vision...

To the topic now.

What about dogs in the city?
My dog is not fussy. He doesn’t care if the park is linear, square, rectangle, oval, stripes shaped. No Siree Dog! Hey, he is only passing through, taking a dump, moving on, no hard feelings. But. He.  Needs. His.  Patch. Of. Green. 
Without it he may as well stay at home and do his thing on the rug, in the kitchen, which would be uncivilized, especially for a Dalmatian.  
All things said the city should review the ratio to something like this:  2.75/ 1000 + 101 Dalmatians.  Got it?
They live in Vancouver and this keeps them busy too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought of the Day<br />
&#8220;I suspect that the majority on the City of Vancouver Council is connected as in an anachronistic series circuit. They cannot afford to let go, really. They are all holding hands, with Gregor closing the circle, his fingers, up&#8230;the power source.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also, I have a confession to make, I am afraid of circus clowns. I am particularly scared when they are riding their undersized bicycles, honking their horns and spraying water on the unsuspecting spectators from their flower shaped water throwers. And then, there are the shoes. Big, “gianormous” rainbow coloured, gummy soled, dog shit left on grass squishing machines.<br />
But, enough about Vancouver Vision&#8230;</p>
<p>To the topic now.</p>
<p>What about dogs in the city?<br />
My dog is not fussy. He doesn’t care if the park is linear, square, rectangle, oval, stripes shaped. No Siree Dog! Hey, he is only passing through, taking a dump, moving on, no hard feelings. But. He.  Needs. His.  Patch. Of. Green.<br />
Without it he may as well stay at home and do his thing on the rug, in the kitchen, which would be uncivilized, especially for a Dalmatian.<br />
All things said the city should review the ratio to something like this:  2.75/ 1000 + 101 Dalmatians.  Got it?<br />
They live in Vancouver and this keeps them busy too!</p>
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		<title>By: spartikus</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/developer-world/council-gets-letter-missiles-from-both-sides-on-northeast-false-creek-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-16146</link>
		<dc:creator>spartikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;and call the space a water sanctuary and then allow it to be included as park space.&lt;/i&gt;

Because it&#039;s time government finally moved to protect the world famous coral reefs of False Creek from the Aqua Ferry scourge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and call the space a water sanctuary and then allow it to be included as park space.</i></p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s time government finally moved to protect the world famous coral reefs of False Creek from the Aqua Ferry scourge.</p>
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