Comments on: B.C.’s new law to give police powers to put homeless in shelters during cold http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/ Vancouver city life and politics Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:07:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Stephanie http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-15078 Stephanie Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:08:10 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-15078 Did anyone hear Jan Wong take Rich Coleman to pieces on The Current today? Coleman says that he speaks to workers in the DTES regularly and that they say that things are "better down there than they've ever been". The mind just boggles. http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2009/200909/20090924.html Did anyone hear Jan Wong take Rich Coleman to pieces on The Current today? Coleman says that he speaks to workers in the DTES regularly and that they say that things are “better down there than they’ve ever been”. The mind just boggles.

http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2009/200909/20090924.html

]]> By: Lisa Lesage http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-15072 Lisa Lesage Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:17:14 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-15072 Helping people is a great thing. But forcing them to be helped is questionable. Helping people is a great thing.
But forcing them to be helped is questionable.

]]> By: Jamie Lee http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-15071 Jamie Lee Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:34:24 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-15071 Todd Look they had all the supposed experts on the HEAT team including Mr David Eby. I went into these shelters and they are a joke. It is up to us to ensure they are acceptable and suitable accommodation for the homeless. No wonder the homeless don't want to go into them but again, the question has to be posed - what is safer and more humane - an indoor space where people temporarily warehoused or is it better to leave our vulnerable, weak and very sick people to be left on the street to die? Todd

Look they had all the supposed experts on the HEAT team including Mr David Eby. I went into these shelters and they are a joke. It is up to us to ensure they are acceptable and suitable accommodation for the homeless. No wonder the homeless don’t want to go into them but again, the question has to be posed – what is safer and more humane – an indoor space where people temporarily warehoused or is it better to leave our vulnerable, weak and very sick people to be left on the street to die?

]]> By: Frothingham http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-15012 Frothingham Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:04:17 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-15012 michael geller // Sep 22, 2009 at 7:51 am Look at their past record on all of this. We'll see after March if they are still on course to address this major issue. Colour me a cynic. michael geller // Sep 22, 2009 at 7:51 am

Look at their past record on all of this. We’ll see after March if they are still on course to address this major issue. Colour me a cynic.

]]> By: cashisking http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-15001 cashisking Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:02:14 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-15001 I had a good friend who's brother was diagnosed as a schizophrenic just after the charter came in. His father was one of the most respected and succesful lawyers in the city. He was one of the youngest QC's in the country, money, connections etc. He spent the better part of a decade trying to get his son of the street and IF any person was capable of pulling a few right strings it would have been him. He finally had to give up against the charter. If YOU honestly beleive this has anything to do with the mayor or someone in the provincial gov't actually giving a shit you are SADLY mistaken. Hope that doesn't burst anyones bubble but it's the truth. I had a good friend who’s brother was diagnosed as a schizophrenic just after the charter came in. His father was one of the most respected and succesful lawyers in the city. He was one of the youngest QC’s in the country, money, connections etc. He spent the better part of a decade trying to get his son of the street and IF any person was capable of pulling a few right strings it would have been him. He finally had to give up against the charter. If YOU honestly beleive this has anything to do with the mayor or someone in the provincial gov’t actually giving a shit you are SADLY mistaken.
Hope that doesn’t burst anyones bubble but it’s the truth.

]]> By: Michael Phillips http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-14984 Michael Phillips Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:08:51 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-14984 Thanks for the info Mr Geller and FBT, it does appear the the Mayor had the idea that using police force may be a possibility in the hours after Tracey's death occured. However, even the day Tracey died he voiced concerns about the civil rights aspect of compelling people to go to a shelter, - Mayor Gregor Robertson said he had a discussion about the matter with Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu on Friday. "There is an issue of civil rights there that we have to grapple with, and that is the challenge right now, particularly with people who choose to remain or are convinced that they belong outside," Robertson said. - http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/12/19/bc-homeless-fire-death.html#socialcomments There is definitely a difference between thinking that using police force in this way may be a possibility in the hours after Tracey's death, and actually working away on a bill to this effect for months. If he was really keen on the idea, it might have appeared in his press release which it didn't, http://www.straight.com:81/article-176972/mayor-gregor-robertson-how-you-can-help-homeless I wouldn't say based on these statements that he is responsible for this Act. Thanks for the info Mr Geller and FBT, it does appear the the Mayor had the idea that using police force may be a possibility in the hours after Tracey’s death occured. However, even the day Tracey died he voiced concerns about the civil rights aspect of compelling people to go to a shelter,

– Mayor Gregor Robertson said he had a discussion about the matter with Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu on Friday.

“There is an issue of civil rights there that we have to grapple with, and that is the challenge right now, particularly with people who choose to remain or are convinced that they belong outside,” Robertson said. -

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/12/19/bc-homeless-fire-death.html#socialcomments

There is definitely a difference between thinking that using police force in this way may be a possibility in the hours after Tracey’s death, and actually working away on a bill to this effect for months.

If he was really keen on the idea, it might have appeared in his press release which it didn’t,

http://www.straight.com:81/article-176972/mayor-gregor-robertson-how-you-can-help-homeless

I wouldn’t say based on these statements that he is responsible for this Act.

]]> By: spartikus http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-14972 spartikus Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:59:04 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-14972 And here I thought <a href="http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/vancouvers-hr-manager-latest-to-quit/#comment-13929" rel="nofollow">FBT was all about the tolerance of other's viewpoints</a>. If you make a good, well-supported argument, I will change my mind. If I ask for a citation, don't get offended. And here I thought FBT was all about the tolerance of other’s viewpoints.

If you make a good, well-supported argument, I will change my mind. If I ask for a citation, don’t get offended.

]]> By: Chris Keam http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-14971 Chris Keam Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:53:32 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-14971 Boy, one only has to look at the ill-mannered, narrow-minded behavior we display on this blog to understand why some homeless people make a choice to distance themselves from polite society. Boy, one only has to look at the ill-mannered, narrow-minded behavior we display on this blog to understand why some homeless people make a choice to distance themselves from polite society.

]]> By: FBT http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-14970 FBT Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:20:56 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-14970 Oh and Spartikus don't forget to ship the crap from behind your ears once you get your head out of your arse. Oh and Spartikus don’t forget to ship the crap from behind your ears once you get your head out of your arse.

]]> By: FBT http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/b-c-s-new-law-to-give-police-powers-to-put-homeless-in-shelters-during-cold/comment-page-1/#comment-14969 FBT Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:18:02 +0000 http://www.francesbula.com/?p=2006#comment-14969 Michael Geller, In case you didn't know how, just copy and paste the address from your internet browser into your post and it should work..... Sometimes though because of the length they don't. If anyone has trouble with the one above, just copy and paste it into the address field of your browser and press enter. Michael Geller,

In case you didn’t know how, just copy and paste the address from your internet browser into your post and it should work…..

Sometimes though because of the length they don’t. If anyone has trouble with the one above, just copy and paste it into the address field of your browser and press enter.

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