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		<title>By: gmgw</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/canada-line-hoopla-about-to-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14272</link>
		<dc:creator>gmgw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane, in a sudden burst of insight, said: &quot;Yes, I am coming off as arrogant now aren’t I?&quot;

In the same way that the Pope comes off as Catholic, yes.
gmgw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane, in a sudden burst of insight, said: &#8220;Yes, I am coming off as arrogant now aren’t I?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the same way that the Pope comes off as Catholic, yes.<br />
gmgw</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/canada-line-hoopla-about-to-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14241</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I am coming off as arrogant now aren&#039;t I? Sorry about that. This type of debate definitely gets me goin&#039; - partcularly when folks dismiss the freedom of choice aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am coming off as arrogant now aren&#8217;t I? Sorry about that. This type of debate definitely gets me goin&#8217; &#8211; partcularly when folks dismiss the freedom of choice aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/canada-line-hoopla-about-to-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14240</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gmgw

Spare me the 1950&#039;s era attitude and this stuff about &quot;affordability&quot;.  Most people can make far better choices with the money they have but they choose not to because they are too good to sacrifice what they believe is important. 

People express their true values when they choose a home to buy. Living in a suburb far away from where you work because is it &quot;better for the kids&quot; is ridiculous when you then have to spend 2 hours + per day away from your kids commuting. Is it really their kids they&#039;re putting first?

Most of these folks go even further and choose to buy and financially support two cars because they &quot;need&quot; them. If they&#039;d taken the dollars for those car payments and applied it to a monthly mortgage on a more expensive house in a more accessible location, they would have had a far more positive impact on their family&#039;s lifestyle and future net worth. So - I call B.S. on the &quot;affordability&quot; defence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gmgw</p>
<p>Spare me the 1950&#8242;s era attitude and this stuff about &#8220;affordability&#8221;.  Most people can make far better choices with the money they have but they choose not to because they are too good to sacrifice what they believe is important. </p>
<p>People express their true values when they choose a home to buy. Living in a suburb far away from where you work because is it &#8220;better for the kids&#8221; is ridiculous when you then have to spend 2 hours + per day away from your kids commuting. Is it really their kids they&#8217;re putting first?</p>
<p>Most of these folks go even further and choose to buy and financially support two cars because they &#8220;need&#8221; them. If they&#8217;d taken the dollars for those car payments and applied it to a monthly mortgage on a more expensive house in a more accessible location, they would have had a far more positive impact on their family&#8217;s lifestyle and future net worth. So &#8211; I call B.S. on the &#8220;affordability&#8221; defence.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Just Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/canada-line-hoopla-about-to-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14239</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Just Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Shane might come across as arrogant  (sorry Shane) he does have a point.  Sure those families might have moved out there because that&#039;s the only place they could afford with a yard.  It is still a choice they made, and there are consequences for that choice.  Just like the family that decided to move the family into a small condo to be close to transit also has consequences to be paid. Which situation is better will depend on the family, but the point is you can&#039;t have your cake and eat it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Shane might come across as arrogant  (sorry Shane) he does have a point.  Sure those families might have moved out there because that&#8217;s the only place they could afford with a yard.  It is still a choice they made, and there are consequences for that choice.  Just like the family that decided to move the family into a small condo to be close to transit also has consequences to be paid. Which situation is better will depend on the family, but the point is you can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it too.</p>
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		<title>By: gmgw</title>
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		<dc:creator>gmgw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane said:
&quot;Most of those coach express buses are going from 60 minute, to 30 minute frequency no?&quot;

Most of the large number of people who ride those buses daily seem to feel that doubling their frequency of service is no compensation for halving the distance they travel.

As for those whiny people in &quot;obscure cul-de-sacs in obscure suburbs&quot; you keep bitching about, Shane, did you ever stop and think for even one minute that maybe they live out there because that&#039;s how far out they had to go before they could find a house they could afford? That maybe they wanted their kids to grow up in a house with a back yard they could play in, rather than in a condo? You take inner-city elitism to new heights, you really do.
gmgw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane said:<br />
&#8220;Most of those coach express buses are going from 60 minute, to 30 minute frequency no?&#8221;</p>
<p>Most of the large number of people who ride those buses daily seem to feel that doubling their frequency of service is no compensation for halving the distance they travel.</p>
<p>As for those whiny people in &#8220;obscure cul-de-sacs in obscure suburbs&#8221; you keep bitching about, Shane, did you ever stop and think for even one minute that maybe they live out there because that&#8217;s how far out they had to go before they could find a house they could afford? That maybe they wanted their kids to grow up in a house with a back yard they could play in, rather than in a condo? You take inner-city elitism to new heights, you really do.<br />
gmgw</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/canada-line-hoopla-about-to-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14227</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m talking about people who live in obscure cul-de-sacs in obscure suburbs, then whine and complain about how &quot;crappy&quot; transit service is.

I think I can safely say that if they live in said obscure of the obscure, that access to transit had absolutely ZERO weighting in their decision matrix when they chose their residence.

Therefore, they have no right to complain.

Most of those coach express buses are going from 60 minute, to 30 minute frequency no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m talking about people who live in obscure cul-de-sacs in obscure suburbs, then whine and complain about how &#8220;crappy&#8221; transit service is.</p>
<p>I think I can safely say that if they live in said obscure of the obscure, that access to transit had absolutely ZERO weighting in their decision matrix when they chose their residence.</p>
<p>Therefore, they have no right to complain.</p>
<p>Most of those coach express buses are going from 60 minute, to 30 minute frequency no?</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. I just noticed that one of the Vancouver Sun&#039;s &quot;Canada Line&quot; articles was written by Frank Luba. At first glance I thought it was Frances Bula.

Alter ego, Frances? Perhaps an intentional ploy on the part of the sun to retain readers disappointed in your departure (but happy you&#039;re contributing to the Globe.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. I just noticed that one of the Vancouver Sun&#8217;s &#8220;Canada Line&#8221; articles was written by Frank Luba. At first glance I thought it was Frances Bula.</p>
<p>Alter ego, Frances? Perhaps an intentional ploy on the part of the sun to retain readers disappointed in your departure (but happy you&#8217;re contributing to the Globe.)</p>
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		<title>By: WW</title>
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		<dc:creator>WW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the discussion and debate now needs to shift to &quot;how can we maximize the benefits.&quot;  The line is built.  It was built how it was built (in terms of disruptions to city and business live).  That&#039;s over.  

Now we have a great new rapid-transit service with new stations.  

How should city planning policy shift to make use of the Cambie Corridor?  

What new businesses might be viable now that more people can reach certain nodes?

Will it be possible to develop more housing units near transit stations, thereby giving more people an option to live in Vancouver? and perhaps helping to mitigate sky rocketing costs of renting or owning because of the supply/demand imbalance.

Lets use the line, rather than continue wasting energy arguing about whether it should have been built how it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the discussion and debate now needs to shift to &#8220;how can we maximize the benefits.&#8221;  The line is built.  It was built how it was built (in terms of disruptions to city and business live).  That&#8217;s over.  </p>
<p>Now we have a great new rapid-transit service with new stations.  </p>
<p>How should city planning policy shift to make use of the Cambie Corridor?  </p>
<p>What new businesses might be viable now that more people can reach certain nodes?</p>
<p>Will it be possible to develop more housing units near transit stations, thereby giving more people an option to live in Vancouver? and perhaps helping to mitigate sky rocketing costs of renting or owning because of the supply/demand imbalance.</p>
<p>Lets use the line, rather than continue wasting energy arguing about whether it should have been built how it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that it&#039;s opened early and on budget is surely a boon, don&#039;t you think? MBO sure seems to think so: http://tinyurl.com/o5lfld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that it&#8217;s opened early and on budget is surely a boon, don&#8217;t you think? MBO sure seems to think so: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/o5lfld" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/o5lfld</a></p>
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		<title>By: mezzanine</title>
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		<dc:creator>mezzanine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all its lumps, I&#039;m glad that the Canada Line is opening.  I&#039;ve seen people say that it will never reach ridership projections and people say that we will regret not building for more ridership.  People who say we&#039;ve cheaped out and cut corners and people who say we spent too much.

Let&#039;s see what happens in a year from now.  IMO it will be well-used and indispensable part of our transit system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all its lumps, I&#8217;m glad that the Canada Line is opening.  I&#8217;ve seen people say that it will never reach ridership projections and people say that we will regret not building for more ridership.  People who say we&#8217;ve cheaped out and cut corners and people who say we spent too much.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what happens in a year from now.  IMO it will be well-used and indispensable part of our transit system.</p>
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