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	<title>Comments on: Chapter 237: The case of the purloined Olympic-loan documents</title>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyways sounds like City Hall could use a little shake up or in this case shake down as we go into the election.  Falcon and Lander sure were going on about Robertson about nothing I guess its their turn now as things have a way of coming back at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyways sounds like City Hall could use a little shake up or in this case shake down as we go into the election.  Falcon and Lander sure were going on about Robertson about nothing I guess its their turn now as things have a way of coming back at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if there is whistle blowing rules they shouldn&#039;t apply especially when all that was done is alert the public to what they should have been informed of in the first place.  So whats the damages?  Maybe to their reputations as they will not be seen as having the best interests of the public at heart.  Having said that it was their actions that speak loudest or lack of accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if there is whistle blowing rules they shouldn&#8217;t apply especially when all that was done is alert the public to what they should have been informed of in the first place.  So whats the damages?  Maybe to their reputations as they will not be seen as having the best interests of the public at heart.  Having said that it was their actions that speak loudest or lack of accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are no whistle blowing rules why bother and as far as negative how much more negative can you get with people dying on your city streets while people step over them.  Its also a way of taking the importance away from the real issue why was the tax payer not informed that the city was going to have bailout Olympic Village to the possible tune of $100 million.  And not all this distortion when nobody really wants to watch these guys negotiate but rather just be advised of the issues important to taxpayers and what you are planning on doing about it.  I&#039;m certain as much as city wants to go on about the leak its really not about that but rather about being shocked they where in negotations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are no whistle blowing rules why bother and as far as negative how much more negative can you get with people dying on your city streets while people step over them.  Its also a way of taking the importance away from the real issue why was the tax payer not informed that the city was going to have bailout Olympic Village to the possible tune of $100 million.  And not all this distortion when nobody really wants to watch these guys negotiate but rather just be advised of the issues important to taxpayers and what you are planning on doing about it.  I&#8217;m certain as much as city wants to go on about the leak its really not about that but rather about being shocked they where in negotations.</p>
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		<title>By: spartikus</title>
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		<dc:creator>spartikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree the &quot;hunt for the leaker&quot; is a desperate attempt to change the subject, but sometimes these thing backfire so spectacularly they become an issue unto themselves. 

It was B.C. Lee&#039;s own assistant who signed the affidavit that contradicts his story.  I don&#039;t see how he isn&#039;t in big trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the &#8220;hunt for the leaker&#8221; is a desperate attempt to change the subject, but sometimes these thing backfire so spectacularly they become an issue unto themselves. </p>
<p>It was B.C. Lee&#8217;s own assistant who signed the affidavit that contradicts his story.  I don&#8217;t see how he isn&#8217;t in big trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: RossK</title>
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		<dc:creator>RossK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think W.I.N. is onto something here....A person or persons sure is trying to make that missing document that is not missing the story for no good reason at all.

Having said that....there were only two councillors, allegedly, that swiped in during that period....but what, exactly, is so special about them given that other folks also swiped in and/or out during that time. Ludicrous, just ludicrous....and for the TeeVee reporter to stand behind his &#039;fair piece&#039; is the height of ludicrousness to the 39th power.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think W.I.N. is onto something here&#8230;.A person or persons sure is trying to make that missing document that is not missing the story for no good reason at all.</p>
<p>Having said that&#8230;.there were only two councillors, allegedly, that swiped in during that period&#8230;.but what, exactly, is so special about them given that other folks also swiped in and/or out during that time. Ludicrous, just ludicrous&#8230;.and for the TeeVee reporter to stand behind his &#8216;fair piece&#8217; is the height of ludicrousness to the 39th power.</p>
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		<title>By: Westcoast Indie News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westcoast Indie News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all smoke and mirrors, don&#039;t fall for the shiny baubles being waved in front of our eyes. The real story is following the money out of Vancouver City hall and into Millenium and into  into VANOC and who knows where else has it gone? 

While we&#039;re in the &quot;fact finding&quot; mood, lets find out where other bits of our money have gone. Remember the &quot;global econonomic crisis&quot; is helping dump gazillions of taxpayer dollars into private corporations (and the Olympics,  in our unfortunate case). 

Follow the Money Trail – Part 2: All Good Things Seem to Lead to Liberals 

It will all make compelling reading after the Inquiry is over. 

Let&#039;s get real here. The City of Vancouver does not need to go into any more debt right now. But, I guess with a big space where the City&#039;s Chief Financial Officer, Estelle Lo, used to be, Vancouver&#039;s kind of living Large with our money in these fragile economic times. 

Re: Whistleblowing legislation 

10. Whistleblower (pg. 6) of Brian Foley&#039;s recommendations to settle the strike between CUPE locals 15 &amp; 1004 and the City of Vancouver sets out the new whistleblower language. 

http://www.cupe15.org/documents/VancouverStrikeRecommendations.pdf

Administrative Report: Whistleblowing Policy.
Standing Committee on Planning &amp; Environment
Vancouver City Council, May 15th, 2008

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20080515/documents/pe1c.pdf

Will be interesting to see the new policy being tested out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all smoke and mirrors, don&#8217;t fall for the shiny baubles being waved in front of our eyes. The real story is following the money out of Vancouver City hall and into Millenium and into  into VANOC and who knows where else has it gone? </p>
<p>While we&#8217;re in the &#8220;fact finding&#8221; mood, lets find out where other bits of our money have gone. Remember the &#8220;global econonomic crisis&#8221; is helping dump gazillions of taxpayer dollars into private corporations (and the Olympics,  in our unfortunate case). </p>
<p>Follow the Money Trail – Part 2: All Good Things Seem to Lead to Liberals </p>
<p>It will all make compelling reading after the Inquiry is over. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get real here. The City of Vancouver does not need to go into any more debt right now. But, I guess with a big space where the City&#8217;s Chief Financial Officer, Estelle Lo, used to be, Vancouver&#8217;s kind of living Large with our money in these fragile economic times. </p>
<p>Re: Whistleblowing legislation </p>
<p>10. Whistleblower (pg. 6) of Brian Foley&#8217;s recommendations to settle the strike between CUPE locals 15 &amp; 1004 and the City of Vancouver sets out the new whistleblower language. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cupe15.org/documents/VancouverStrikeRecommendations.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cupe15.org/documents/VancouverStrikeRecommendations.pdf</a></p>
<p>Administrative Report: Whistleblowing Policy.<br />
Standing Committee on Planning &amp; Environment<br />
Vancouver City Council, May 15th, 2008</p>
<p><a href="http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20080515/documents/pe1c.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20080515/documents/pe1c.pdf</a></p>
<p>Will be interesting to see the new policy being tested out.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevevbc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevevbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it necessarily has to end badly.

If Vancouver can bring itself to vote for a mixed council then I think its quite possible that this poor chapter of City Hall can be re-written.

It will be interesting to see how the story unfolds Saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it necessarily has to end badly.</p>
<p>If Vancouver can bring itself to vote for a mixed council then I think its quite possible that this poor chapter of City Hall can be re-written.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the story unfolds Saturday.</p>
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		<title>By: independent mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>independent mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really looks like the city manager Judy Rogers is really going after Vision. If the leak about swipe cards and security tape was false why didn&#039;t she speak up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really looks like the city manager Judy Rogers is really going after Vision. If the leak about swipe cards and security tape was false why didn&#8217;t she speak up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rob. Bureaucrats have many reasons to dislike significant changes in council. I am thinking systemically but personal politics also play a part. This seems like a case where city managers are playing politics with the tools they have at hand. Control of the flow of information, who learns what and when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rob. Bureaucrats have many reasons to dislike significant changes in council. I am thinking systemically but personal politics also play a part. This seems like a case where city managers are playing politics with the tools they have at hand. Control of the flow of information, who learns what and when.</p>
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		<title>By: spartikus</title>
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		<dc:creator>spartikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t, er, reflect well on BC Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t, er, reflect well on BC Lee.</p>
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