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	<title>Comments on: When will we see shovels?</title>
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		<title>By: T W</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/when-will-we-see-shovels/comment-page-1/#comment-5963</link>
		<dc:creator>T W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole problem with the stimulus packages, here and elsewhere, is that there seems to be very little effort on the part of our elected representatives, at all levels, to show us poor taxpayers the contrast between benefits and costs of proposed projects. 

Instead we are been fed carefully selected pieces of information by managers and elected officials with little evidence of careful analysis other than political expediency.

Transparency and accountability are surely needed if we are to  burden future generations without any central facts being evident to the present generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole problem with the stimulus packages, here and elsewhere, is that there seems to be very little effort on the part of our elected representatives, at all levels, to show us poor taxpayers the contrast between benefits and costs of proposed projects. </p>
<p>Instead we are been fed carefully selected pieces of information by managers and elected officials with little evidence of careful analysis other than political expediency.</p>
<p>Transparency and accountability are surely needed if we are to  burden future generations without any central facts being evident to the present generation.</p>
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		<title>By: re:place Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>re:place Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sole NPA survivor needs to learn lessons from the past [CityCausus.com] When will we see shovels? [State of Vancouver] Shovel Ready or Shovel Worthy? [Price Tags] Mr. Robertson, Tear Down the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sole NPA survivor needs to learn lessons from the past [CityCausus.com] When will we see shovels? [State of Vancouver] Shovel Ready or Shovel Worthy? [Price Tags] Mr. Robertson, Tear Down the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: coldwater</title>
		<link>http://www.francesbula.com/uncategorized/when-will-we-see-shovels/comment-page-1/#comment-5919</link>
		<dc:creator>coldwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprising. Langley is Conservative and Vancouver is not. Let&#039;s see how much infrastructure money comes to the urban areas that don&#039;t vote Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprising. Langley is Conservative and Vancouver is not. Let&#8217;s see how much infrastructure money comes to the urban areas that don&#8217;t vote Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The folks in the area in and around Victoria, have been trying for years to light a fire under someone to get the E&amp;N railbed upgraded to give commuter traffic up and down the islanda rail option. Lots of shovel work there. Money? Not so you would notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks in the area in and around Victoria, have been trying for years to light a fire under someone to get the E&amp;N railbed upgraded to give commuter traffic up and down the islanda rail option. Lots of shovel work there. Money? Not so you would notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the actual cost of a &quot;shovel&quot;, buying locally is by far cheaper, because back in the 1970s BC Tel always bought their shovels from Ma Bell for four times the cost locally.

What the company was doing was sending the profit line down for local investors and giving the parent company a shot in the arm for their shareholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the actual cost of a &#8220;shovel&#8221;, buying locally is by far cheaper, because back in the 1970s BC Tel always bought their shovels from Ma Bell for four times the cost locally.</p>
<p>What the company was doing was sending the profit line down for local investors and giving the parent company a shot in the arm for their shareholders.</p>
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